"We have to win games ourselves."....dont forget to oil your glove and pine tar your bat. "Useless Input"...?? Could you give me an example of USEFULL input on here? I always thought it was all pretty much useless input on here but maybe I'm wrong and all of the usefull input provided by I'm sure all cardinal fans really contain the keys to not only winning the world series but key to life itself. Are you feeling OK?...You don't sound like yourself. You know like how you are usually talking about how great the cardinals are and how the reds stink..maybe you might want to go see a doctor about that and see if he's got a solution to that "down & out" feeling that you seem to have...Oh hell, there I go again with more useless input...I'm sorry.