Since UK has had EIGHT four star commits in the past four years (including Boyd AND Goode) and has put 13 players in the NFL I think that is an excellent ratio compared to Florida, which has had SIXTY TWO four star PLUS nineteen FIVE stars in the same five years. Since MOST five stars like Harvin, Demps, Tebow, etc should be mostly expected to make the league Florida has probably only put about 26 four stars in compared to UK's 13, or twice as many when they have had about EIGHT times as many four stars commit. Maybe Dawson and a few more recruits should consider that.
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Originally posted by heydoublebubble:
This tracker is proof of our past woes in recruiting and how much we have possibly overacheived in the past 5 years. Just some food for thought and may stimulate some discussion. Here are the results for SEC schools on the tracker re: total number of pros. Hopefully I didn't miscount.
SEC WEST
1. LSU with 52 pros
2. Auburn - 31
3. Alabama - 28
4. Ole miss - 28
5. Arkansas - 19
6. MSU - 17
EAST
1. Georgia - 42
2. Slimmeessee - 41
3. Florida - 38
4. SC - 21
5. Vandy - 14
6. UK - 13
I guess you could say that shows we haven't recruited as well as our SEC counterparts - although I think most of us knew that. Not sure where the connection is with overachievement. Please explain.
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Player Position Team
Cobb, Randall WR Green Bay Packers
Conner, John RB New York Jets
Jarmon, Jeremy DE Denver Broncos
Johnson, Micah LB Kansas City Chiefs
Johnson, Steve WR Buffalo Bills
Kelley, Braxton LB Denver Broncos
Lindley, Trevard DB Philadelphia Eagles
Locke, Derrick RB Philadelphia Eagles
Masthay, Tim P Green Bay Packers
Pakulak, Glenn P Oakland Raiders
Peters, Corey DT Atlanta Falcons
Pryor, Myron DT New England Patriots
Smith, Alfonso RB Arizona Cardinals
Tamme, Jacob TE Indianapolis Colts
Williams, Garry T Carolina Panthers
Woodyard, Wesley LB Denver Broncos
This is an attempt at an updated list. CBS sports has us w/ these 16 as of today, Monday 8/8/11. This does not show Dequin Evans, DE (Bengals), Chris Matthews, WR (Browns), Ricky Lumpkin, DT (Chiefs) or Mike Hartline, QB (Colts). That would give us 20 Total, which sounds a lot better than 12 or 13 or whatever we were listed at before. On that note, other SEC schools do a better job of promoting their current NFL players than we do, putting out a list going into training camp vs. opening day (like UK does). Now, they have the higher #'s showing when it comes to listing NFL players which does actually help in recruiting. Anyhow, GO CATS!! & GO CATS in the NFL!!
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Originally posted by Blue&White51:
Player Position Team
Cobb, Randall WR Green Bay Packers
Conner, John RB New York Jets
Jarmon, Jeremy DE Denver Broncos
Johnson, Micah LB Kansas City Chiefs
Johnson, Steve WR Buffalo Bills
Kelley, Braxton LB Denver Broncos
Lindley, Trevard DB Philadelphia Eagles
Locke, Derrick RB Philadelphia Eagles
Masthay, Tim P Green Bay Packers
Pakulak, Glenn P Oakland Raiders
Peters, Corey DT Atlanta Falcons
Pryor, Myron DT New England Patriots
Smith, Alfonso RB Arizona Cardinals
Tamme, Jacob TE Indianapolis Colts
Williams, Garry T Carolina Panthers
Woodyard, Wesley LB Denver Broncos
This is an attempt at an updated list. CBS sports has us w/ these 16 as of today, Monday 8/8/11. This does not show Dequin Evans, DE (Bengals), Chris Matthews, WR (Browns), Ricky Lumpkin, DT (Chiefs) or Mike Hartline, QB (Colts). That would give us 20 Total, which sounds a lot better than 12 or 13 or whatever we were listed at before. On that note, other SEC schools do a better job of promoting their current NFL players than we do, putting out a list going into training camp vs. opening day (like UK does). Now, they have the higher #'s showing when it comes to listing NFL players which does actually help in recruiting. Anyhow, GO CATS!! & GO CATS in the NFL!!
If you look at that list of sixteen, it should be pretty obvious where the overachievement comes in. There are TWO four stars on that list (both from in state) ,with THIRTEEN two stars and three three stars, and two of the three stars got their third late (Tamme rejected by Morris and Cobb after a late UT offer, maybe damage control). Woodyard was a three star but not heavily recruited.
The other four included two four stars, but both were JC transfers, and includes a two star and a three star QB that couldn't throw the ball ten yards. LOL
Compare that to Florida, with 62 four star and 19 FIVE star commits (you DO know a lot of their names) over five years, or Georgia with 49 four star commits over a four year span.
This post was edited on 8/13 5:41 AM by jauk11
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Sam made it the league? Thats great for him, He was a great guy in college
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Micah probably blew it with the chiefs saturday. He was already pretty low on the depth chart but when he jumped off sides on 3rd and 4 and gave St.Louis a first down, he gave the chiefs every reason to doubt his mental makeup.
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Jarmon, Evans, Matthews, M. Johnson and Lumpkin were cut yesterday.
Evans may make the Bengals practice squad, though.
Link: Several Former Cats Cut As NFL Teams Trim Rosters
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What's the updated numbers for Cats in the NFL with all the cuts. Someone run the list.
Has Cal put more Cats in the league than Joker and Brooks?
Vanderbilt has more impact players in the league than UK.
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12 players.
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Link: Here is a nice summary for Week 2
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Link: Week 3 summary
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we have had the talent at skilled positions..it is just that there is no depth to that talent.
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good thread thanks for the link...how does vandy have more..? this is unacceptable!!!!
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I wonder if Hartline will gets some clock if painter and collins goes down...or do the colts go after kurt warner? lol
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Link: Week 4
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Done .
This post was edited on 11/3 10:12 AM by TAZWELL35
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Smith looks very unsure
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For God's sake. Trips over his own feet.
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Originally posted by heydoublebubble:
This tracker is proof of our past woes in recruiting and how much we have possibly overacheived in the past 5 years. Just some food for thought and may stimulate some discussion. Here are the results for SEC schools on the tracker re: total number of pros. Hopefully I didn't miscount.
SEC WEST
1. LSU with 52 pros
2. Auburn - 31
3. Alabama - 28
4. Ole miss - 28
5. Arkansas - 19
6. MSU - 17
EAST
1. Georgia - 42
2. Slimmeessee - 41
3. Florida - 38
4. SC - 21
5. Vandy - 14
6. UK - 13
Seems the rankings of the divisions follow this list pretty closely. If you can recruit, you can win. Period.
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I have posted this before, but according to my numbers UK actually does a better job of getting players into the NFL per their recruiting rankings than probably anyone not named Vandy (their players cheat by being smart). I researched UK's opponents last year for the previous four years and the AVERAGE number of four stars committed to UK's opponents the previous four years was THIRTY NINE (including the two Misses, both in the 20's, ALL of MSU's from in state). The USC team that Joker beat had forty four stars and two five stars the previous four years. That was minus Vandy, of course. Florida had SIXTY ONE four stars and NINETEEN five stars in five years, you know like our last one, Couch, last century. Did Couch make a difference?
Very few of the fans appreciate the recruiting obsstacles UK faces, in state talent and UK support being the two biggest, OR the FACT that Joker's coaches are improving our talent the only way possible without cheating with his resources and backing---slowly but surely. A breakout year where we get all the breaks for a change is badly needed, we have come close recently and we are getting closer.
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Originally posted by jauk11:
I have posted this before, but according to my numbers UK actually does a better job of getting players into the NFL per their recruiting rankings than probably anyone not named Vandy (their players cheat by being smart). I researched UK's opponents last year for the previous four years and the AVERAGE number of four stars committed to UK's opponents the previous four years was THIRTY NINE (including the two Misses, both in the 20's, ALL of MSU's from in state). The USC team that Joker beat had forty four stars and two five stars the previous four years. That was minus Vandy, of course. Florida had SIXTY ONE four stars and NINETEEN five stars in five years, you know like our last one, Couch, last century. Did Couch make a difference?
Very few of the fans appreciate the recruiting obsstacles UK faces, in state talent and UK support being the two biggest, OR the FACT that Joker's coaches are improving our talent the only way possible without cheating with his resources and backing---slowly but surely. A breakout year where we get all the breaks for a change is badly needed, we have come close recently and we are getting closer.
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Player Position Team
Burden, Chandler OL Tennessee Titans
Cobb, Randall WR Green Bay Packers
Conner, John RB New York Jets
Evans, Dequinn LB Cincinnati Bengals
Jarmon, Jeremy DE Denver Broncos
Johnson, Micah LB Cincinnati Bengals
Johnson, Steve WR Buffalo Bills
Lindley, Trevard DB Philadelphia Eagles
Masthay, Tim P Green Bay Packers
Mosley, Anthony DB San Franciso 49ers
Peters, Corey DT Atlanta Falcons
Pryor, Myron DT New England Patriots
Roark, Matt WR New England Patriots
Smith, Alfonso RB Arizona Cardinals
Sneed, Ronnie LB Detroit Lions
Tamme, Jacob TE Indianapolis Colts
Trevathan, Danny LB Denver Broncos
Tydlacka, Ryan P Philadelphia Eagles
Williams, Garry OL Carolina Panthers
Woodyard, Wesley LB Denver Broncos
This is an attempt at an updated list. That would give us 20 Total, which sounds a lot better than 12 or 13 or whatever we were listed at before. On that note, other SEC schools do a better job of promoting their current NFL players than we do, putting out a list going into training camp vs. opening day (like UK does). Now, they have the higher #'s showing when it comes to listing NFL players which does actually help in recruiting. Anyhow, GO CATS!! & GO CATS in the NFL!!
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DeQuin Evans and Micah Johnson both got cut by the Bengals. Not surprising...
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Lindley was cut by Eagles
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Jarmon is out of the NFL and on the sidelines here in Lexington and you left off Winston Guy (Seattle).
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John Conner was released by the Jets a few days ago unfortunately.
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Cobb didn't make the list
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Wesley Woodyard 8th in the league in total tackles.
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Eagles re-signed Lindley to a 2 year deal today. Hopefully with a new coaching staff he will get a better shot.
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